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Though given that they've had their old registration data expunged and changed, then it could simply be false.
For an example of the planespotter's data, try googling on "N379P movements". They're basically watching various airports and reporting every takeoff and landing; the torture plane shows up on logs for Glasgow and Frankfurt, as well as one other site as well.
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by IdiotSavant on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 03:06:35 AM PDT
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" - Abraham Lincoln
by LondonYank on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 03:59:14 AM PDT
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As for arrests (or at least being boarded and searched), I would very much like to see that happen. But realistically I don't think the German government would want to cause a diplomatic incident with the hegemon over something as piffling as torture. Unless Germans make them, that is.
Also, I expect that given the publicity, they will have another plane by now. We'll just have to wait for more reports of renditions, and hope the witnesses get the tailnumber.
by IdiotSavant on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 04:18:34 AM PDT
'Screw you guys, I'm going home' -- Eric Cartman
by Neil Stevens on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 05:41:51 AM PDT
Would anybody have standing to bring a civil suit against these guys in the U.S.?
The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.
by lysias on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 07:39:08 AM PDT
However...I don't know if that necessarily extends past the President to the VP or other cabinet-level positions.
Would be interested if there's any attorneys out there that could comment on this.
"The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg
by grannyhelen on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 07:45:05 AM PDT
In practice, the only remedy against an incumbent President for abhorent policy decisions is impeachment.
President Clinton's legal troubles set the precedent that governmental immunity is limited to the official acts of the President, and not to suits arising out of the private life of the President unrelated to his official duties.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire
by ohwilleke on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 09:18:05 AM PDT
NetrootNews coming soon!
by ksh01 on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 08:37:06 AM PDT
I Am Hussein and So Can You
by Goldfish on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 10:03:55 AM PDT
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